Next mod.

[civickeen91]

So Im wondering what the next performance mod i should get is.
I have an exhaust, intake, and headers.
What should I buy?

[MWolbeck]

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I was on his name trying to post his pics, and forgot to sign out.

[hondadude141]

hahahhaha you pulled a "hondacrazy143" lol jk jk well man, it all depends on the amount of money you have to spend and what you are looking to get out of the modifications

[Pata078]

If you hate the Look of your Stock Muffler and Small Muffler Tip, I say get an Exhaust.
If you would like to Look Better under the Hood the Go with Both an Air Intake and Headers. But I would start with an Air Intake First.

[MWolbeck]

I already have an intake, exhaust, and headers.
I want more speed. but i dont have the money to just throw down to get boosted.

[SweetHonda24]

you could do some head work. get a port and polish, get a new cam and cam gear and get it tuned. that will give you a nice little power increase.

[Pata078]

I already have an intake, exhaust, and headers.
I want more speed. but i dont have the money to just throw down to get boosted.
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Damn, I thought you said What should you get Next. An Exhaust, Headers or Intake.

I'll go back to sleep now............

[mfcivic101]

i think i saw another thread about a guy that wanted to get his motor port and polished.. how about that? how does that sound to you?

[MWolbeck]

How much does that usually cost?
And what exactly is the definition of a port and polish?

[mfcivic101]

i have no idea how much it costs..

but to port and polish your motor is to grind down the path of the intake and exhaust gases so your engine becomes way more efficient, and then the next step is to polish the surface of your combustion chambers and exhaust ports so the drag on the gases is lessened. i think thats about it.. these guys can give a way more detailed explanation than i can.

[Pata078]

If you want to do something before considering Port and Polish. Maybe getting a Camshaft with a Cam Gear like SweetHonda said and Then you can see how that Feels.

[MobiggaLX]

well i have all that but i wanted more pull so i chipped my car with a mugen chip got me to 8000 rev

[SweetHonda24]

that can also be done with most aftermark tuning devices plus you will be able change air/fuel ratios which you will want to do if you add a cam.

[MWolbeck]

So just get a performance camshaft?

[SweetHonda24]

i would get a stage 1. something mild that wont require you to replace your springs and retainers. then you will want to get an adjustable cam gear so you can tune it. you will also want to get some kind of engine management system so you can adjust your air/fuel ratios.

[94accordex]

well i have all that but i wanted more pull so i chipped my car with a mugen chip got me to 8000 rev

What's the stock red-line on your engine? If the stock red-line is less than 8,000 RPMs and you're consistently revving it that high I hope you upgraded your springs and retainers too. Also, just because you can rev that high doesn't necessarily mean you're making power all the way up there, your stock cam might not be designed for it. I'd look into an after-market cam and upgraded valve train...

[kevoweb]

yea, reving to 8000 is not going to provide you any more power. the engine is limited by it's breathing capabilities. If you are reving at 8000 rpm, like Ben said, you better have upgraded your valvetrain otherwise sooner or later you will float a valve and kiss some pistons goodbye. Buying a cam however will increase the breathing capabilities of the engine and, with good tuning, provide a good bang for your buck.

[Pata078]

Wow, This is Great. We're Learning here.

So what kind of After Market Cams are good. And explain the Stage 1 Deal Please.

I Had a AEM Adjustable Cam Gear on another Civic I had but Never messed with it. I just got it could it was Red and Looked Good:)

[kevoweb]

well a "stage 1" cam (d-series) will probably keep the intake valves open a bit longer, allowing for more air into the engine. It's a mild upgrade in breathing and will still maintain a "stockish" idle. more aggressive cams will require more tuning and start to be impractical for street driving.

[Pata078]

So, would a Stage 1 Cam help more for a Turbo? or a Super Charger? or Both?

[SweetHonda24]

stage 1 cam would work fine with a turbo, but turbos breathe differently. there really isnt a need for an adjustable cam gear since most turbo motors make their power at 0 degrees. when turbo cars are making boost the air is forced into the head, so you dont need to overlap the valves. overlaping the valves is normally done to help suck air in and push are out and make air flow as efficient as possible.

the whole point of a cam is to change how long the valves are open. you can get an adjustable cam gear to change when they are open, therefor changing where your power band is. that is done by adjusting the cam by a certain amount degrees, which you would need a dyno to do.

im no expert on the subject, but that is my understanding. someone correct me if i am wrong.

[kevoweb]

yea good point, there are n/a cam and turbo cams. you gotta be careful which one you are installing depending on your application.

[hondadude141]

Most of the tme when you look for cams you find a stage 1, 2, and 3 and then a cam for turbo/supercharged engine.

Stage 1: street duty, excellent idle quality

Stage 1.2: TURBO regrind

Stage 2: street/strip duty, mild idle lope, good for strokers

Stage 3: race duty, aggressive idle lope

Stage X: Pro series, full race profiles, use EMS or carburators only.

Quote to Bisimoto on that one, but thats just and example, so you definately have a lot of options.

[Pata078]

How about for Super Charger? Would Adjusting a Cam Gear Help More?

[hondadude141]

yea its going to work the same way as an adjustable cam gear would with a turbo, its going to advance the timing of the valves just enabling the engine to breathe free'r and better

[TheAccordWarrior]

well i have all that but i wanted more pull so i chipped my car with a mugen chip got me to 8000 rev

Uhh, that's definitely not a real Mugen part...and revving your motor to 8000 on stock internals is not a good idea.

You want to have more fun with your car, upgrade the suspension. Get a proper set of lowering springs + matching struts, or a full coilover setup.